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WELCOME TO JUICY BIKES

In the Peak District we know about hills and we care about the ride.
For us, performance and power must come with style and detail.
Looking for the best value dutch style, folding and hybrid electric bikes with great quality and perfect service in the UK?  RIDE THIS WAY.

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RIDE THIS WAY

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THE BIKE YOU'VE ALWAYS WANTED

Love life on two wheels. Look forward to your commute.
Get into the countryside. Climb higher, go further.
Cycling hasn't been this much fun since your first bike.
Curious? Book a test ride with a JUICY retail partner.

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ARRANGE A TEST RIDE

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BUY WITH CONFIDENCE

RISK FREE 14 day home trial when you buy on-line.
Established UK brand with great rider and press reviews.
Full 12 month warranty as standard or extend to 24 for £69.
Click and collect: Built for you to collect from your local bike shop.

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CLICK AND COLLECT

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ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL

Tailor it to you: modular design enables you to choose from five frame styles, five battery sizes, four wheels sizes, three brake options, two handlebar displays and five glorious colours.
So you're sure it's right for you. We'll build your perfect bike.

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CHOOSE YOUR PERFECT BIKE

Range anxiety shouldn't be a thing

When buying an electric bike one of the first questions customers ask us is "How far will it go?"

This should be an easy question to answer honestly and informatively, however we've noticed a real hotch-potch of obfuscation and caveats amongst the industry as a whole that could almost seem designed to promote confusion and, ultimately, anxiety that any customer should never have to experience.  Buying an ebike should be filled with pleasure and joy - a confident purchase without guesses or doubts.  So with that ambition we try to un-pick manufacturer claims to reveal how best to compare electric bike range claims.

electric bike on a long trail

Factors affecting bike range

There are so many factors that can affect the assisted range of an ebike that it’s very tempting to say “How long is a piece of string!”

Here are just some of the things that will reduce range…

  • Cold weather
  • Low tyre pressure
  • Stopping and starting during the journey
  • Hills
  • Headwinds
  • Rider weight and additional loads
  • Bike weight
  • Not using gears correctly
  • Suspension forks
  • Poor maintenance
  • Bad road surfaces

 

Measurables are much more meaningful

Claims made by manufactures vary wildly; as it’s a major deciding factor in choosing an ebike the temptation is for claims to be highly "optimistic". This has given rise to the popularity of the “up to” caveat in describing what distance the assistance will take you.  Using the term "Up to" is a powerful legal convenience often now used to state the ridiculous!

At Juicy we have always encouraged potential customers to base their comparison research on battery capacity rather than rely on manufacturer claims regarding distance. Battery capacity is a measurable quantity, described in either Amp Hours (AH) or Watt Hours (WH); the higher the number, the further you’ll go.

Simply, a 13AH / 470WH battery will take you further than or 10.5AH / 380WH

 

Differences between rider sensing systems

There are essentially two methods for sensing how much power an ebike should provide the rider: torque and cadence systems.  Torque sensing measures rider effort whilst cadence reacts to pedal movement, providing power regardless of effort.

Torque sensor systems can make battery use more efficient, but they do this by delivering less power when you work less and more when you work harder, making it easier to conserve power through greater rider effort. So, if the bike has a torque sensor rather than a cadence sensor, you should go further, but you’ll work a little harder.  If you enjoy a work out try a torque sensor.  More casual riders may well prefer the less effort required of a cadence system.

 

Power consumption

Less easy to numerically compare are claims made about motor power.  Everyone can read and compare the consumption in watts of a motor, or compare the figures given for torque output measured in Newton Metres (NM).  But few of us are able to do more than experience the difference. Here we rely on the honesty of the figures given us; the honesty of the manufacturer pronouncement.  There IS a legal limit to the output of any motor type and this is measured in Watts, which in general is 250W "mean output" for our popular category of ebike.  However this is so loosely interpreted that it is, fortunately, quite easy to experience the difference between the most powerful 250W motors and those that aren't nearly up to the job. 

How to compare? Just give them a ride!  Doing so may even reveal a bike that is scarily too powerful and not for you at all, and which is also likely to consume the available battery capacity far too soon.

Regardless, for paper comparison we have to assume that all manufacturers of any note are using up all of the 250 available watts under the law.

 

Quantifiable Joy

With the growth of conventional bike manufacturers coming into the ebike market, the information provided to purchasers can sometimes be vague, or even missing entirely. All electric bikes provide joy, but if you can’t find the numbers you'll never be able to buy with any confidence i.e. "measure your pleasure". Having decided to invest in an electric bike it’s helpful to at least know the basics of the electrical spec.

 

When test riding Juicy, so many cycling journalists exceeded our own stated range estimates

We’d hate to see customers dismiss our bikes without trying them because they don’t see extravagant “up to” claims on our web site and in our leaflets.

At Juicy, we have always aimed to describe what a bike WILL achieve in medium assist with an "average" rider, but as the market has grown, we've noticed the typical rider getting younger and fitter, turning to ebikes for convenience and fun rather than through necessity. Younger, fitter riders are recognising the benefits of ebikes and our "average" customer is changing. Perhaps it’s time we changed with them, but for now we present range as a given for all, rather than rely on small-print caveats.

 

Comparing the claims 

We’ve taken a look at a representative selection of manufacturer range claims and this is what we found…

 

First, a look at some Popular Hybrids…

  Raleigh Array Neomouv Montana Forme Peak Trail 3E Juicy Roller

Make

Raleigh

Neomouv

Forme

Juicy

Model

Array

NEW Montana

Peak Trail 3E

Roller

Price

£1,275

£1399

£1,450

£1585

Battery

400Wh

420Wh

400Wh

375Wh

Manufacturer Suggested range

"Up to" 62 miles

50 miles in medium assist

"Up to" 110 miles

33 miles in medium assist

Upgrade battery

Weight

23Kg

24Kg

Not listed

19.5Kg

Torque

Not listed

45NM

30NM

50NM

TQ Sensor

Assist levels

3

6

Not listed

5

 

Next, becoming ever more popular: Hidden Battery Bikes…

  Juicy Ticket Ribble Al E Orbea GAIN F40

Make

Juicy

Ribble

Orbea

Model

Ticket

Hybrid Al e

Gain F40

Price

£1549

£1899

£1799

Battery

7.8Ah/280Wh

6.9Ah/250Wh

6.9Ah/248Wh

Suggested range

18 miles in medium assist

Not listed

Not listed

Upgrade battery

+£150

+£549

Weight

16.5Kg

13.1Kg

Not listed

Torque

50NM

40NM

40NM

TQ Sensor

Assist levels

5

3

3

 

A dilemma for Juicy  

Do we continue to only show a realistic mid-range figure?

Do we join those who show what the very fittest riders would achieve in the best conditions?

Or do we follow those brands who simply leave it to your imagination?

Before we review how we present information about our products in the New Year, we’d love to hear your views.  If you are a Disqus user we welcome your thoughts and input below! 


And if you have Emma's number we'll give her a call too... Um, by dialling her phone... "Dial Emma..." dilemma... (we try, but promise to stick to the day job!)

 
 

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